chip from seattle, washington. caller: how's it going? i just have a quick question. i believe the country was built on innocent until proven guilty. it certainly seems like gun owners at large are guilty until they otherwise prove themselves to be a good guy or innocent. i have a tough time rationalizing what i hear about the innocent until proven guilty. we have this idea because of this one horrific act that everyone is now guilty of possibly being subjected to doing the same thing. host: what you do as a society? it not only deals with gun- control, but wayne lapierre also blaming the entertainment industry and whether we need to do a better job arming schools. there are a lot of issues coming into play. caller: there are and it would take too long to address all of them. i believe in individual rights. i'm not trying to attack anyone of these individual rights. how'd we make sure the crazy people, criminals, how do we keep the guns out of their hands? we have a litany of laws are rare that are not well in forest. gun shows, gun stores. our schools are soft target